14 March 2007

Food for thought!
Taken from a USA forum this morning
As an outsider looking in to Bedlingtonland, forgive me if what I am about to say sounds a bit puerile or simplistic but when it comes to breeding back good coats, and reducing the size (slightly) surely this cannot be that difficult? The potential problems lie not with the breeding in (or back in) of such improvements , but persuading your average Bedlington show enthusiast that such dogs are a worthwhile prospect in a show situation. These huge ,white cotton coated "Bedlingtons" did not appear overnight, they were not snuck in the back door, they were planned and bred to look like that over a sustained period. Then to put the lid on it, certain judges started to favour these dogs, and from that point , the downward spiral began. Now, I do not know that much about the mechanics of dog showing, but I do know that when you start to value the aesthetic values of any subject above all else, you have got trouble on your hands. When Ferrari or Porsche or Aston Martin offer us a sports car, of course it looks stunningly beautiful on the outside, but its allure would soon fade if it was found to have nothing under the bonnet/hood. So of course they use a blend of good looks and performance, not to mention character . It is telling to note that these "thoroughbred" car manufacturers are very careful not to radically alter the looks of their cars from one decade to the next. Of course, multi national motor companies do this not by accident because they know that it is the heritage that ultimately makes them special. Oh yes , I nearly forgot, whilst I was attempting to be positive I almost forgot about Mrs Davies's silly side swipe about "ugly working strains" Relax Shirl, for today I am feeling tolerant of such ignorant rubbish. (whats fuels it I wonder) Let me clarify for those who may be interested in how your dogs working cousins are bred. A working terrier (that is an earthdog) cannot be "barrel chested" and still negotiate his way around a foxes den. Foxes are more akin to cats'in their physical build, therefore any serious eathdog must be narrow enough in the chest department to go where the fox has gone before him. My own dog is 16" (lovely long legs) but narrow enough around the chest that I can span him with both hands. The short legged , barrel chested working dogs I imagine are the> product of trial/chance matings of pedigree Bedlingtons and poor grade Fell/Patterdale Terriers.> No serious hunter would have anything to gain in breeding a barrel chested dog. Have a look in the photo section of this site, Look at the> Rillington bred dogs of "printer1959" and my own dog, they are the results of careful selective breeding.
David Bruce
"talk sense to a fool and he will call you foolish" - Euripides>>

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

How many other Bedlie people share these concerns? and say and do nothing?
Credit to this guy. but will it change anything?

Anonymous said...

Everything depends on the judges! They make the decisions in the ring and decide on the champions. Do they judge to the breed standard is the question?

billy said...

how can anyone call a working dog "ugly"

Anonymous said...

HUMANS ARE OF COURSE FALLABLE(THINK OF THE POOR OLD FOOTBALL REFEREES)BUT
BUT THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT
MANY BEDLINGTON JUDGES DO THE BREED NO FAVOURS BY STRETCHING THE STANDARD TO PLEASE THEMSELVES.

D Bruce

Anonymous said...

I sometimes think that there must be several breed standards as some judges seem to choose large dogs that are definately too large for the standard even allowing for dog/bitch allowance.This makes dogs of correct height small looking when next to large dogs in the ring and then overlooked.Dogs that are barrel ribbed are often favoured too.

Anonymous said...

How many of the "working" guys have even read the breed standard, because if they did they would be breeding something very different to their mongrels.

Anonymous said...

How many Championship and "working" shows has Mr Bruce judged/attended to pass such expert comment on the breed? After attending and judging both for over thirty years, I for one have never heard of him. Like George Newcombe, Betty Ashley Cooper and Meg Williamson in the past perhaps he and his dogs were not up to it so he has decided to rubbish what ever anybody else does. His dogs are probablyperfect.

Anonymous said...

Hmmmm another anonymous comment,
I am certainly no expert but I am entitled to my opinion.
If you have been "attending and judging for over 30 years" and you try to defend this mess - you are part of the problem and not part of the solution. - reveal yourself "anonymous" .

D Bruce

george said...

mr bruce can you show a photo of your dogs please